Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 120

02/13/2006 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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01:21:56 PM Start
01:24:09 PM Select Committee on Legislative Ethics
01:46:24 PM HB353
02:30:29 PM HB400
02:59:53 PM HB384
03:13:06 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Ethics Committee Public Member TELECONFERENCED
Confirmations
-Herman G. Walker, Jr.
-Dennis "Skip" Cook
-Lindsey S. Holmes
+= HB 353 SENTENCING FOR SEXUAL OFFENSES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 400 CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 384 FINES AND OFFENSES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 353 - SENTENCING FOR SEXUAL OFFENSES                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:46:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  353, "An  Act relating  to sentences  for sexual                                                               
offenses."   [Before  the committee  was  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB 353,  Version  24-LS1449\G,  Luckhaupt,                                                               
2/2/06, which had been adopted as the work draft on 2/8/06.]                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:46:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PORTIA PARKER, Deputy Commissioner,  Office of the Commissioner -                                                               
Juneau,  Department   of  Corrections  (DOC),  referred   to  the                                                               
PowerPoint  presentation  entitled,  "Sex  Offender  Containment"                                                               
included in committee  packets.  She highlighted  that 45 percent                                                               
of state  prisoners participating in  the 1991 Bureau  of Justice                                                               
Statistics  Survey   committed  a   [sexual  assault]   while  on                                                               
probation or parole.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA   inquired  as  to  whether   there  is  any                                                               
information regarding how Alaska  fares with its probation system                                                               
[for sex offenders].                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER informed  the  committee that  such  data for  Alaska                                                               
isn't collected in  a central location.  However,  she offered to                                                               
provide  the  committee  with  data   regarding  how  many  times                                                               
Alaska's prisoners or even just  Alaska's sex offenders have been                                                               
booked,  convicted,  or issued  a  Petition  to Revoke  Probation                                                               
(PTRP).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER continued  with her presentation by  relaying that the                                                               
goal of  the containment  model is  to [provide]  information and                                                               
ensure  public safety.    She then  informed  the committee  that                                                               
Alaska has  twice the national  average of  rape per capita.   In                                                               
response  to Representative  Coghill, Ms.  Parker specified  that                                                               
the aforementioned data relates to forcible rape.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:50:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA inquired  as to the percentage  of rapes that                                                               
are uninvestigated at the Anchorage Police Department (APD).                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  said she  didn't have statistics  for APD.   However,                                                               
she relayed that  both in Alaska and in  other jurisdictions, the                                                               
general rule  is that a small  percent of rapes are  reported, of                                                               
those  a small  percent are  investigated, and  of those  an even                                                               
smaller percent of the perpetrators are convicted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  expressed the  need for improvement  in that                                                               
regard.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER continued by relaying  that reported forcible rapes in                                                               
Alaska increased  21.7 percent  from 2000  to 2003.   Reiterating                                                               
that  forcible rapes  are greatly  underreported, she  noted that                                                               
there were 521 forcible rapes  and 54 attempted rapes reported in                                                               
2003.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  asked   whether  something  happened  in                                                               
Alaska to cause that increase.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE asked  whether more people are  beginning to report                                                               
rape.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER  said that  there  are  several possibilities.    She                                                               
opined  that  education  and  advocacy  group  interventions  are                                                               
probably leading to  an increase in reporting.   Furthermore, the                                                               
increase may  be due to  increased law enforcement efforts  in an                                                               
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA opined that a  large part of the solution has                                                               
to be  more law enforcement officers  and prosecutorial resources                                                               
in this area,  both of which cost money.   He further opined that                                                               
if  the number  of cases  being investigated  [doesn't increase],                                                               
then "we're missing the boat."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  concurred, recalling  discussions  with                                                               
his  father  who believes  that  since  his retirement  from  the                                                               
Alaska  State  Troopers  in  1983, the  number  of  troopers  has                                                               
decreased by half.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:54:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL   noted  that   although  there   was  an                                                               
appropriation last  year for trooper  positions, it could  not be                                                               
filled this year.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER interjected  that use  of polygraphs,  treatment, and                                                               
supervision in  the [community] would really  help.  Furthermore,                                                               
sharing  information regarding  the number  of crimes  committed,                                                               
the  relapse  patterns,  and  the  number  of  victims  with  law                                                               
enforcement agencies  will help  prevent assaults.   This sharing                                                               
of information in  Oregon has prevented a number  of assaults and                                                               
assisted law enforcement  in its efforts to  address the assaults                                                               
that have occurred.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER informed  the committee  that more  than half  of the                                                               
victims  of  sexual  assault  have been  raped  more  than  once.                                                               
Furthermore, the  victims are  six times  more likely  to develop                                                               
posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD),  three times more likely to                                                               
develop  major  depression, and  thirteen  times  more likely  to                                                               
attempt  suicide.   She  noted  that  the aforementioned  doesn't                                                               
address the  drug and  alcohol abuse [that  can result  as well].                                                               
Alaska's  cost of  victimization, in  relation to  the known  521                                                               
victims, totals  about $45 million  a year.   She noted  that the                                                               
"Making Sense  of Rape  in America:   Where  Do the  Numbers Come                                                               
From  and What  Do  They  Mean?" report  indicated  that only  16                                                               
percent of victims reported being raped.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL surmised that  rape victims are probably a                                                               
large portion  of the suicide  population.  He asked  whether Ms.                                                               
Parker has worked with [the  groups studying suicide and rape] in                                                               
compiling statistics.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER replied  no, adding that most of the  studies [she has                                                               
referenced] are  national, but they  produce similar  findings to                                                               
those in Alaska.  In  further response to Representative Coghill,                                                               
Ms.  Parker  said  that  the groups  studying  suicide  and  rape                                                               
nationally haven't spoken with her directly.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  suggested, then, that the  nexus [between                                                               
those groups and Alaskan groups] should be made.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER clarified  that although those groups  don't work with                                                               
her directly, they  do work with the providers in  DOC and others                                                               
who provide  health services  for victims  as well  as offenders.                                                               
Ms.  Parker then  turned  to  the question  of  who reports,  and                                                               
relayed  that  victims  of  a   younger  age  and  who  know  the                                                               
perpetrator delay  reporting the  crime.  However,  those victims                                                               
who have their life threatened,  receive physical injury, and the                                                               
perpetrator is  a stranger are  more likely to report  the crime.                                                               
She  then  informed the  committee  that  of  the 16  percent  of                                                               
reported sexual  crimes, only  27 percent of  those result  in an                                                               
arrest.   The aforementioned is  one of  the reasons why  the sex                                                               
offender recidivism rate  is so low; it  is actually artificially                                                               
low.  In  fact, with regard to  sexual abuse of a  minor, a minor                                                               
victim is  less likely  to report again  when the  perpetrator is                                                               
from a position of trust, such as a relative.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Chair   McGuire  turned   the  gavel   over  to   Representative                                                               
Anderson.]                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:59:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG asked  whether  anyone  has ever  asked                                                               
what can be  done to make it more comfortable  for [underage rape                                                               
victims] to report an incident.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  opined that  [underage rape  victims not  reporting a                                                               
repeated  sexual abuse]  is related  more  to concerns  regarding                                                               
what society  as a whole  and the their  family will think.   She                                                               
said she wasn't sure how that could be remedied.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG relayed his  belief that generally, with                                                               
regard to crime, things are  made tougher by increasing sentences                                                               
or  creating new  crimes.    However, it  seems  that less  often                                                               
encouragement  is given  to  people  to do  the  right thing  and                                                               
report the crime.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER, in response to a  question, said that the DOC doesn't                                                               
specifically work  with victims,  save obtaining  information and                                                               
helping them through the process.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Representative Anderson returned the gavel to Chair McGuire.]                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:04:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  ASHENBRENNER,   Training,  Policy  and   Research  Project                                                               
Coordinator,  Alaska  Network  on   Domestic  Violence  &  Sexual                                                               
Assault  (ANDVSA),  began by  informing  the  committee that  the                                                               
ANDVSA is  a nonprofit  organization that  consists of  20 member                                                               
programs  that  address  domestic violence  and  sexual  assault.                                                               
Therefore,  the ANDVSA  works  directly with  many  victims.   In                                                               
response  to an  earlier  question, Ms.  Ashenbrenner offered  to                                                               
provide  information to  the  committee when  the  bill is  heard                                                               
next.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER  continued  with   the  PowerPoint  presentation  and                                                               
returned  to the  matter  of delayed  disclosure  with regard  to                                                               
victims who are children.   She informed the committee that often                                                               
50-70 percent of the victims are  children 17 years of the age or                                                               
younger.  With regard to  adult victims, 71 percent are concerned                                                               
about the  family knowing, 68  percent about others  knowing, and                                                               
69 percent about being blamed by  others.  Therefore, the goal of                                                               
the  containment approach  is to  obtain  and share  information.                                                               
She  highlighted the  slide  that detailed  the  policies of  the                                                               
containment  approach, which  are modeled  after the  containment                                                               
programs  of Oregon  and Colorado.   The  most important  part of                                                               
ensuring  that  things  "stay  in  check"  are  the  consequences                                                               
provide  by   the  criminal  justice  system.     Therefore,  the                                                               
consequences for a failed polygraph  must be immediate, linked to                                                               
the  risk,  include  increased  surveillance,  involve  obtaining                                                               
corroborative information,  [and include informing others  of the                                                               
polygraph results].   She  assured the  committee that  [the DOC]                                                               
won't revoke  [probation] based solely on  a deceptive polygraph.                                                               
Currently, the  treatment provider,  the probation  officers, and                                                               
the  polygraph examiner  all  work together  to  ensure that  the                                                               
information  is  accurate, and  so  the  question of  whether  to                                                               
revoke [probation] is addressed as a team decision.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:09:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA asked  whether  the results  of a  polygraph                                                               
would be used in a probation revocation hearing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  stated that it  wouldn't be  cited as the  reason for                                                               
revocation.   She  explained that  [the DOC]  obtains independent                                                               
verification or  evidence that  something occurred,  although "we                                                               
may  have been  tipped off  to it."   She  confirmed that  at the                                                               
[probation  revocation] hearing,  the  polygraph  isn't used  and                                                               
would remain so under the terms of HB 353.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER  pointed  out  that   the  next  few  slides  of  the                                                               
PowerPoint presentation, specifically  the one entitled, "Secrets                                                               
Revealed",  relate  shocking  information   with  regard  to  the                                                               
information  discovered  through   treatment  and  the  polygraph                                                               
versus  what  is available  in  criminal  justice records.    She                                                               
relayed that the polygraph is  used [with sexual offenders] in 38                                                               
other  jurisdictions.    She  emphasized that  the  DOC  is  only                                                               
proposing use of the polygraph  with sex offenders because it has                                                               
been the  most valuable  tool with such  offenders.   Through the                                                               
use of the polygraph in  other jurisdictions, it has been learned                                                               
that   the   traditional   rapist  doesn't   really   exist   and                                                               
perpetrators  are  very  willing   to  cross  over  into  various                                                               
populations  of   victims.    The  most   startling  finding  for                                                               
treatment providers  is that according  to court records,  only 7                                                               
percent of  [sex offenders]  have both  adult and  child victims,                                                               
whereas  according  to  polygraph  reports, 70  percent  [of  sex                                                               
offenders]   have   both   adult   and  child   victims.      The                                                               
aforementioned  information is  of particular  importance to  the                                                               
criminal justice system, especially  in relation to probation and                                                               
parole  [of  a sex  offender]  and  reuniting the  offender  with                                                               
his/her  family,  including  children,   when  one  doesn't  know                                                               
whether the offender has assaulted children.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:12:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER relayed  that although the crime  of incest supposedly                                                               
has  the lowest  recidivism  rate, children  who  are victims  of                                                               
incest are most  likely to say they would never  report it again.                                                               
She then turned attention to  the PowerPoint slide that specifies                                                               
that 35  percent [of the  sex offenders in Texas,  Wisconsin, and                                                               
Oregon] assaulted  strangers; while  57 percent assaulted  from a                                                               
position  of trust  and 36  percent also  assaulted adults.   She                                                               
then relayed that the average age  at which a sex offender begins                                                               
to [sexually offend] is between 12 and  16 years of age.  The lag                                                               
time in detection, from the first  sexual offense to the time the                                                               
offender is caught, is fairly high.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  asked whether  the question  of why  people commit                                                               
sexual offenses is being addressed at all.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER  opined  that  the   risk  assessment  and  treatment                                                               
processes  provide  much of  the  background  data on  offenders.                                                               
However, there is a broad range of offenders.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE relayed her understanding  that the DOC attempts to                                                               
look at  more than just the  punishment of an offender  by trying                                                               
to  rehabilitate when  possible.   She  expressed  hope that  the                                                               
[polygraph] can  be used in  Alaska to  discover what leads  to a                                                               
12-year-old committing  a sexual offense  and what "we"  might be                                                               
able to do better.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA offered  his  recollection  that during  the                                                               
first year of the current  administration, it ended in-prison sex                                                               
offender treatment  programs.   He inquired  as to  what programs                                                               
were  ended  and what  programs  were  put  in place  for  felony                                                               
convictions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER  clarified  that  only  the  one  program  at  Hiland                                                               
Mountain  Correctional Center  was stopped.   The  aforementioned                                                               
was a small program that was  only able to take minimum and "low-                                                               
medium"  custody  offenders, most  of  which  were motivated  and                                                               
amenable to treatment.   The program treated about  10 percent of                                                               
sex offenders  and thus 90  percent of the sex  offenders weren't                                                               
receiving treatment  at all.   In  the four  years that  that sex                                                               
offender treatment  program was  in operation, only  38 offenders                                                               
completed the  program.  The  overall cost of the  program, about                                                               
$500,000  a  year,  was  being   spent  on  low  risk  offenders.                                                               
Therefore,  those resources  were  put  into community  treatment                                                               
where  there were  more  providers.   Ms.  Parker explained  that                                                               
through  that change  the  department was  able  to provide  more                                                               
treatment in  the community  as well as  better services  to more                                                               
offenders.    In  response to  Representative  Gara,  Ms.  Parker                                                               
confirmed  that  [under  that  program],  sex  offenders  weren't                                                               
receiving treatment until they were  released into the community,                                                               
and that's the case now as well.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:19:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  informed the committee  that most sex  offenders were                                                               
not sexually assaulted  as children, although they  may have been                                                               
beaten, abused, or [otherwise]  assaulted during their childhood.                                                               
Most  people  who  are  sexually  assaulted  do  not  become  sex                                                               
offenders themselves.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  inquired as to  what it would take  to anonymously                                                               
assess and identify patterns of sexual offenders.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  relayed that  the DOC has  started a  risk assessment                                                               
program such  that every sex  offender receives an  in-depth risk                                                               
assessment  prior to  release from  prison.   Currently, two  sex                                                               
offender treatment  providers are on  contract and travel  to the                                                               
facilities  where   most  sex  offenders  are   housed,  and  are                                                               
performing   the   aforementioned   assessments  prior   to   the                                                               
offender's release.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  offered  his  belief that  much  of  the                                                               
behavior   of  sexual   offenders   is  a   result  of   Internet                                                               
pornography.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER  said that  the  Internet  makes  it easier  for  sex                                                               
offenders  to  access  victims   and  materials,  and  engage  in                                                               
behavior toward which they already have a tendency.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:22:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER,  in further response to  Representative Coghill, said                                                               
that  the  department  has statistics  regarding  whether  a  sex                                                               
offender  was  convicted  of  a  crime  involving  the  Internet.                                                               
However, what  to attribute increased rates  of [sexual offenses]                                                               
is more difficult to ascertain.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  indicated  the  need  for  part  of  the                                                               
questioning  to include  what  behaviors lead  up  to the  sexual                                                               
offense.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER said that is  addressed in the questionnaire that each                                                               
offender must complete.   She explained that the next  step is to                                                               
catalogue all the  information for each offender and,  as is done                                                               
in other states, enter the  information into the criminal justice                                                               
database.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  relayed that the  post-conviction polygraph  with sex                                                               
offenders is  one of the  most accurate polygraphs because  it is                                                               
controlled,  specific, and  limited.   Furthermore,  most of  the                                                               
information  is  obtained  during  the  pre-  and  post-interview                                                               
rather than  from the polygraph.   She then reviewed  the various                                                               
types of exams, which include  the sex history exam, the specific                                                               
issue  exam, and  the maintenance  exam.   She then  reviewed the                                                               
purpose of maintenance polygraph.   She relayed that in Colorado,                                                               
69  percent of  those sex  offenders under  supervision with  the                                                               
polygraph were  in compliance with  probation.  However,  only 26                                                               
percent of  those sex offenders  who had supervision  without the                                                               
polygraph were compliant with probation conditions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER reminded  the  committee that  [HB  353] proposes  to                                                               
adopt  standards  similar to  those  of  Colorado such  that  the                                                               
examiner  would  have  graduated  from  an  Alaska  Psychological                                                               
Association (APA)  accredited polygraph school, had  a minimum of                                                               
150 criminal issue exams and a  minimum of 50 clinical exams in a                                                               
12-month  period,  and 40  hours  of  specialized training  every                                                               
three  years.   The department  is in  the process  of developing                                                               
procedures; in fact, most of  the treatment providers are excited                                                               
about  the  prospect  of  using   the  polygraph  as  a  tool  in                                                               
treatment.    She informed  the  committee  that all  [polygraph]                                                               
exams will be  videotaped in order to ensure  that all procedures                                                               
are followed.   She  then relayed  that polygraph  testing should                                                               
never  be used  in isolation,  and that  multiple methods  should                                                               
always be used.   She also relayed that the  use of the polygraph                                                               
and  treatment   provides  more  information  than   use  of  the                                                               
polygraph or treatment alone.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  concluded by emphasizing  that the goal  of combining                                                               
treatment  with the  use  of  the polygraph  is  to provide  more                                                               
information  such  that  offenders   become  more  successful  in                                                               
completing probation and  parole as well as  not re-offending for                                                               
the  rest of  their lives.   The  ultimate goal,  she stated,  is                                                               
public safety.  She then  reviewed the PowerPoint slide entitled,                                                               
"The Containment Approach: Quality  Control", and said that after                                                               
the  program has  been in  place, the  DOC will  report back  its                                                               
findings to the legislature.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:29:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MARK NEUMAN, Alaska  State Legislature, one of the                                                               
prime  sponsors of  HB  353,  offered to  obtain  answers to  any                                                               
questions the committee may have.   Representative Neuman relayed                                                               
his belief that there is a  thought process [on behalf of the sex                                                               
offender] that  he/she can get  away with these assaults,  and so                                                               
he wanted to  send a strong message that "Alaska  will not put up                                                               
with this."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 353, Version G, was held over.]                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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